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Tennis Lay Pro Review

We asked the author of TennisLayPro for a review and he kindly and quickly accepted. Details below....

You don’t actually get any rules with this system, instead you get a piece of software that chooses the bets for you once you enter in certain info, which is a very nice touch and will save you time doing the calculations yourself. Basically you enter the players rankings in to the software and it will tell you whether to bet or not and how much to bet.

After playing around with the software for a bit I can see that it works by calculating the bet and stake depending on the difference in the gap between the underdog and the favourite. And the lower the favourite is rated (tennis ratings work in reverse, the lower the better e.g. number 1 is the best player) the less the gap seems to have to be. I do not know the exact calculation it does and if I did I could not say as that would be giving the system away and breaking copyright laws but I can see that is the basic principal and in theory it is a good one.

This system could be bit of a problem though if you don’t like laying to high liabilities because the bigger the gap the more it tells you to bet (it is not a level stakes system, you bet between 1 and 5 points). Nothing wrong with this in theory but unfortunately the bigger the gap the higher the odds are likely to be, and since this a laying system, that’s very bad news. 

It means that quite often you will be betting more when the odds are high and less when the odds are low and common sense should be telling you now that this is pretty risky when laying and by doing this one single losing bet could have the effect of a nasty losing run, since the stake goes up with the odds. This I feel will be were the system comes apart.

Also there is the problem of Betfairs odds being higher than bookies odds. The author says that you should try and get round this by trying to get matched in play at the same price as the bookies odds and that this is possible 80% of the time.

This may be true when it comes to the lower priced matches of up to about 6.0, but I can tell you for a fact that higher priced matches are near impossible to get matched at bookies prices in play. It’s not a rare thing to see a player priced at 9 in the bookies and 12+ on Betfair, and they very rarely win or look like winning so it is rare they will go near the bookies price in play.

I’d say 20% of the time max you will get matched when the player is high odds, and they won’t all be winning bets either when they do get matched, some will be losing one’s so I can’t see it making much profit at all from trying to get the higher priced matches matched in play. I may be wrong though but having traded Tennis myself and written a system myself, I doubt there is any value to be had as far as the high odds lays are concerned especially since your stakes will also be higher making what was already a pretty bad value bet up to 5x worse.

If the odds were 10 and your stake was 5, and the bet lost, that’s 45 points profit completely gone from trying to win a measly 4.75 points (after commission).

There are however lower odds lays that are quite close to the bookies odds so you could just follow those if you don’t have the stomach for the potential profit wipes that come with high odds laying to largish stakes.

The author does have results on the website which is nice and you also get them with the book, but he doesn’t include the liabilitys or the odds (likely because most people would have a heart attack if they saw them) so it’s impossible to determine which were high odds lays and which were low, therefore I can't really work out whether just sticking to the lower priced matches is profitable or not. (WARNING, I have just realised all results on the site are the bookies odds, it does not mention this in the add anywere but tells you when you have purchased, so actual profits will likely be far less than those shown and many will also have been unmatched)

 It won’t be possible at all for me to try and get matched in play without using real money, which I NEVER do when testing something, especially something as risky as this system appears to be. Instead ill post the BET365 odds and the BETFAIR odds and see if it’s any good without trying to get matched in play and it will also be good to see the comparison in odds. Bets were the betfair price is more than 20% over the bookies price will be recorded as no bets.

I have no doubt this system will have lots of winning bets and winning runs because the odds will often be high, but with this comes a price, losing bets could wipe out profits very fast and hard if one comes along especially as generally you will be staking 3-5points on the higher priced lays, though looking at the results on the site I don’t think there has been a major losing run as of yet so that’s good news.

My prediction is the high odds lays along with high stakes will be the downfall of this system, but a ray of hope lies in the lower odds lays. This is just a prediction though and I really hope I am proven wrong.

Results will be posted on the spreadsheet HERE once available.


UPDATE

After just a few days TLP is over 54 points down without trying to get matched in play, which means it would need a hell of a good run to make this back, and the fact the liabilities are large often even when the odds are low, I would say there little chance of that and even if it did a few more losing bets and you would be back to square one.

Now the seller says the system relies on getting matched in play at bookies odds or in the worst case scenario, 20% above bookies odds.
This will be possible at times but not all the time, the author says about 80% of the time but I find that hard to believe, and even if they do get matched it may still be a losing bet.

The results on the site don't really tell us anything at all as there is no possible way to tell which bets got matched, what the odds were, or what they got matched at. It may be that not many got matched which would mean far less bets and far less profit, or it may be quite a few got matched but either way there is no way of knowing what the profit or the ROI was, as there is no proof , just a list of results based on all bets getting matched at SP.

In a nutshell this system does not come with any solid results or proof, is based on a theory and it also bets to large liability's but conveniently it does not mention this on the add or show it in the results, it also costs £39 and although not very expensive if you are going to pay that you would certainly expect to see the real results that the author achieved along with odds etc otherwise you will be left with a system that you have no way of testing without using real money or sitting at your PC for every match.

It is absolutely vital when using systems like this that you have a good idea of actual profits attainable and actual odds achievable on a regular basis, to put up resuts all based on SP when it's unlikely many got matched at SP, and many will not have gotten matched at all, therefore making it impossible to know what the real profits are, is pointless as it does not show the full picture!

TennisLayPro will have to go in the Not Recommended section based on the fact they are using SP based results on the site which makes the profits look way better than what is achievable and it does not mention anywhere on the add that the results shown are all based on SP odds. Ultimately it is results that sell a system and if the results are false it paints a false picture of what is achievable which will leave buyers dissapointed. Even if they put a note on the results to say all results were to SP, it would still be very difficult to work out the actual achievable profits.

I am not saying this system is a scam, I am simply saying that although it may make a profit long term there is no way of knowing without testing over a long period of time with real money to see how often and to what odds you can actualy get matched at and how much you can manage to get matched. A lot more research should have been done before the system was released on these matters and proper actual results should have been shown.